Craigslist Semipro Suggestions
Posted 16-Jan-2003 by OriginalDoc
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I've been seriously playing semipros for about four years now. I'm getting much better at it than I was when I started. Practice practice practice. Here are some of my thoughts on Craigslist.
* Men must post their own ad. Responding to a woman's ad is a total waste of time. A woman who posts a sex ad gets 200-1000 replies within hours, most of them cock pix. The woman generally gets overwhelmed and discouraged and responds to no one.
* The Craigslist community values intelligence and class. In order to avoid having your ad deleted, you must demonstrate both qualities. For example, "I'll give you a hundred bucks to let me jam my red hot poker up your poopshoot," will be deleted within minutes. On the other hand, "Caring benefactor desires to explore the Greek way of life with an understanding young woman" will most likely result in you having some college cutie over to your house takin' it up the ass within a week or so.
* Ah yes, I said within a week or so. Landing a semipro takes time and committment. If you want it NOW, call an escort or cruise the Mission. A true semipro is NOT a part-time hooker. Some girls do it because they have a fantasy of being paid; others are just curious. Many have never done this before. They have a very sensible apprehension about responding to an ad such as yours, let alone in following through. After she answer your ad, you have to be patient yet clear in your communications during the ensuing back-and-forth emails. I would say that for every five responses to an ad, only one will result in an actual encounter. You may have to take her to coffee first to let her check out the vibe. She has a life and a schedule. From first email contact to hooking up takes on average a week or two. She may say yes and change her mind. She may say yes, make a date, and not show up.
* That's right, she might not show up. Every day I see on the Neighborhood Watch board stories of men bent totally out of shape because a hooker didn't show up or -- gasp -- didn't immediately return his call. Landing a semipro calls for a considerably higher level of confidence, control, and patience. If you are gonna flip out emotionally if she makes an appointment with you and then doesn't show up, then don't go after semipros. Young women are young women, and when you start to play the semipro game you are gonna learn a lot about how young women operate. Which most definitely includes not showing up for dates. Live with it. You might as well argue with the tides. Learn to not care about being stood up. This is my number one advice for the semipro game.
* One time I had a coffee date set with a gal who answered my ad. She didn't show up. I called her and she said she forgot, and anyway she was leaving for Europe tomorrow and she'll be back in a couple of weeks. Now I could have gotten irritated, annoyed, whatever. Instead I just said, "Ok, I'll give you a call when you get back. Have a great trip!" And I meant it. Two weeks later I called her and we hooked up and she became a regular for the next couple of months.
* There's a book you have to read. It's called, "How to Date Young Women," subtitled, "For Men over 35." It is the most insightful study I know of the young female mind. It's written by R. Don Steele, who runs a website at http://www.steelballs.com/. The book is about how to date -- not pay, but actually girlfriend/boyfriend date -- young cuties. This book also really improved and focussed my semipro game. He teaches you how young women think and how they view an older man. He thoroughly covers the fact that they are going to stand you up about half the time no matter what you do. He explains why. He teaches you that it's just part of the game. If you're going to play Craigslist successfully, read this book.
* You have to be the adult. What that means is that if she turns out to be lousy in bed, or even worse has no idea of how to provide service or erotic companionship at all, it's all on you. You pay her, smile, say thanks. If she doesn't work out, don't invite her back; but that first session is on you. You are the adult. You've seen a hundred hookers or maybe a thousand; she's had a boyfriend or two in her entire life and has never taken money for sex. You are the man. You must take responsibility for her having a good experience. That doesn't mean giving her a good sexual experience. It means being the adult, being the man. Giving her the space to do whatever feels right to her. I guarantee you that if you do this, what will feel right to her 90% of the time is giving you everything you want. Young women love to please. The other 10% of the time, you have to be the adult and, as I describe it, you must "Bear a bad session with grace." If you can't do that, don't play semipros.
* Recently a beautiful young sexy singer -- starving artist type -- came over to my place and literally rocked my world. I was in love and in lust. A couple weeks later the same girl came over, and this time she had just broken up with her boyfriend. She was genuinely devastated. She vented and we talked and she just didn't have the heart for any erotic activity. After four hours of being her "friend" -- and I did like her, and I did feel for her -- I paid her and sent her home. I haven't seen her again, because deep down the deal is eroticism for cash, and if she's gonna use emotionalism to take advantage of my good nature, I don't want to deal with it. But I didn't cop that particular attitude WITH HER. With her, I was sweet, I gave her a hug, I gave her the cash. And I didn't invite her back. She's a young woman, I'm an old experienced whoremonger, and I take responsibility for providing her with a good experience regardless. If you can't see yourself doing this, don't go after semipros.
* Ok to sum it up: take responsibility for being the experienced man. Be kind, be clear, and never pressure her to do anything she doesn't want to do. Be patient with email and coffee dates. Be strong and grounded. Offer yourself as an opportunity for her to explore her budding sexuality. Make her first experience of being paid, a great experience. If you can do all that, you will have more beautiful sweet genuinely erotic women than you can handle. Especially in the SF Bay Area, where it's a rite of passage for young women to go through their feminist sexual empowerment phase. They want to do it with you. All you have to do is be cool about it.
* You see? These women are not "part-time hookers." Every post I see on Redbook from some guy complaining that he struck out on CL, is because the guy thinks these girls are like the hard-faced $300 escorts who chew gum and watch tv while they're fucking. Semipros are just regular women. They are warm, sweet, sexy women, looking to play with a guy with a sexy mellow vibe and a sense of humor about the whole adventure.
Like you.
Hope that helps.
OD
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I've been seriously playing semipros for about four years now. I'm getting much better at it than I was when I started. Practice practice practice. Here are some of my thoughts on Craigslist.
* Men must post their own ad. Responding to a woman's ad is a total waste of time. A woman who posts a sex ad gets 200-1000 replies within hours, most of them cock pix. The woman generally gets overwhelmed and discouraged and responds to no one.
* The Craigslist community values intelligence and class. In order to avoid having your ad deleted, you must demonstrate both qualities. For example, "I'll give you a hundred bucks to let me jam my red hot poker up your poopshoot," will be deleted within minutes. On the other hand, "Caring benefactor desires to explore the Greek way of life with an understanding young woman" will most likely result in you having some college cutie over to your house takin' it up the ass within a week or so.
* Ah yes, I said within a week or so. Landing a semipro takes time and committment. If you want it NOW, call an escort or cruise the Mission. A true semipro is NOT a part-time hooker. Some girls do it because they have a fantasy of being paid; others are just curious. Many have never done this before. They have a very sensible apprehension about responding to an ad such as yours, let alone in following through. After she answer your ad, you have to be patient yet clear in your communications during the ensuing back-and-forth emails. I would say that for every five responses to an ad, only one will result in an actual encounter. You may have to take her to coffee first to let her check out the vibe. She has a life and a schedule. From first email contact to hooking up takes on average a week or two. She may say yes and change her mind. She may say yes, make a date, and not show up.
* That's right, she might not show up. Every day I see on the Neighborhood Watch board stories of men bent totally out of shape because a hooker didn't show up or -- gasp -- didn't immediately return his call. Landing a semipro calls for a considerably higher level of confidence, control, and patience. If you are gonna flip out emotionally if she makes an appointment with you and then doesn't show up, then don't go after semipros. Young women are young women, and when you start to play the semipro game you are gonna learn a lot about how young women operate. Which most definitely includes not showing up for dates. Live with it. You might as well argue with the tides. Learn to not care about being stood up. This is my number one advice for the semipro game.
* One time I had a coffee date set with a gal who answered my ad. She didn't show up. I called her and she said she forgot, and anyway she was leaving for Europe tomorrow and she'll be back in a couple of weeks. Now I could have gotten irritated, annoyed, whatever. Instead I just said, "Ok, I'll give you a call when you get back. Have a great trip!" And I meant it. Two weeks later I called her and we hooked up and she became a regular for the next couple of months.
* There's a book you have to read. It's called, "How to Date Young Women," subtitled, "For Men over 35." It is the most insightful study I know of the young female mind. It's written by R. Don Steele, who runs a website at http://www.steelballs.com/. The book is about how to date -- not pay, but actually girlfriend/boyfriend date -- young cuties. This book also really improved and focussed my semipro game. He teaches you how young women think and how they view an older man. He thoroughly covers the fact that they are going to stand you up about half the time no matter what you do. He explains why. He teaches you that it's just part of the game. If you're going to play Craigslist successfully, read this book.
* You have to be the adult. What that means is that if she turns out to be lousy in bed, or even worse has no idea of how to provide service or erotic companionship at all, it's all on you. You pay her, smile, say thanks. If she doesn't work out, don't invite her back; but that first session is on you. You are the adult. You've seen a hundred hookers or maybe a thousand; she's had a boyfriend or two in her entire life and has never taken money for sex. You are the man. You must take responsibility for her having a good experience. That doesn't mean giving her a good sexual experience. It means being the adult, being the man. Giving her the space to do whatever feels right to her. I guarantee you that if you do this, what will feel right to her 90% of the time is giving you everything you want. Young women love to please. The other 10% of the time, you have to be the adult and, as I describe it, you must "Bear a bad session with grace." If you can't do that, don't play semipros.
* Recently a beautiful young sexy singer -- starving artist type -- came over to my place and literally rocked my world. I was in love and in lust. A couple weeks later the same girl came over, and this time she had just broken up with her boyfriend. She was genuinely devastated. She vented and we talked and she just didn't have the heart for any erotic activity. After four hours of being her "friend" -- and I did like her, and I did feel for her -- I paid her and sent her home. I haven't seen her again, because deep down the deal is eroticism for cash, and if she's gonna use emotionalism to take advantage of my good nature, I don't want to deal with it. But I didn't cop that particular attitude WITH HER. With her, I was sweet, I gave her a hug, I gave her the cash. And I didn't invite her back. She's a young woman, I'm an old experienced whoremonger, and I take responsibility for providing her with a good experience regardless. If you can't see yourself doing this, don't go after semipros.
* Ok to sum it up: take responsibility for being the experienced man. Be kind, be clear, and never pressure her to do anything she doesn't want to do. Be patient with email and coffee dates. Be strong and grounded. Offer yourself as an opportunity for her to explore her budding sexuality. Make her first experience of being paid, a great experience. If you can do all that, you will have more beautiful sweet genuinely erotic women than you can handle. Especially in the SF Bay Area, where it's a rite of passage for young women to go through their feminist sexual empowerment phase. They want to do it with you. All you have to do is be cool about it.
* You see? These women are not "part-time hookers." Every post I see on Redbook from some guy complaining that he struck out on CL, is because the guy thinks these girls are like the hard-faced $300 escorts who chew gum and watch tv while they're fucking. Semipros are just regular women. They are warm, sweet, sexy women, looking to play with a guy with a sexy mellow vibe and a sense of humor about the whole adventure.
Like you.
Hope that helps.
OD
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